Jester007 wrote:
sweeteyes55 wrote:
Um.. isn't hiding in plain sight the same thing as sneaking around? Both of your characters are quite similar, one carry's a wardrobe of disguises/make-up supplies to turn into someone else where as the other just simply uses his natural ability to do the same thing. Also, how effective would your disguises/shape-shifting be in a RPG group of six people?
Not quite. If someone looks like they belong, people tend not to notice something deemed as normal (who is going to remember some random waiter). Also, my disguises won't show up on a bio-scanner where a clawdite can be detected. That can be useful if we need to infiltrate a facility. Obi's character is designed to use shadows and concealment to move around while my character can use a fake persona to walk right in the front door and BS his way through.
Here's an example. Let's say you want to appropriate a mini fridge from an officers' dinning hall where there is always someone on watch or eating. What would be easier, sneaking in a trying to whisk the fridge away stealthily w/ no explanation of why you are there, or being dressed up with proper paperwork (fake of course) explaining that you're there on a trouble call to take the fridge back to your shop for some maintenance?
As to the effectiveness of my character, your characters may not know who I am dressed up like even though you, the player, may have that information. My character may require leaving your characters in the dark sometimes to make my disguise less noticeable and believable. Doesn't help if my disguise is recognized by your characters when my alternate identity isn't suppose to have met you before.
Now for combat, I will straight up tell you that my character will try to avoid confrontations if possible. He's just not built for fighting. He could provide assistance out of scene by possibly diverting enemy reinforcements, opening/closing security doors for the group, etc.
Sincerely,
Jester007
Actually, from what I see, Obi plans on doing a mimic character who is good at melee just in case he gets caught. One that goes around in plain sight but can hide as soon as the occasion calls for it. As he has no range I highly doubt he is the stealthy strike from the shadows guy. That and I kind of like his idea better, sneak in, turn into who you need to be, get the task done, then sneak out. The fewer people who see you the fewer perception checks need to be made. That and if he is caught he can fight his way out till he finds a good hiding spot.
For example, the fridge thing. You walk through the front door with fake papers. Guard makes two perception checks, one for the papers and one for you. You also have to do a decent use computer check to forge the papers successfully and a good gather information to know they are legitimate. Then, you go down the halls telling every fourth storm trooper what you are doing there. Then you get to the fridge, tell the people in the room who ask what you are doing, perception and deception checks all around. Lastly you walk back out the front door with the fridge, getting asked the whole way out why you aren't taking the fridge to the in building maintenance shop.
Obi finds the building, sneaks past the guard who only gets an opposed perception check. He gets inside, waits till the coast is clear (his own perception check) then shape shifts into one of the people he saw exiting the building. Simple bluff checks to get to the fridge "oh, I forgot something in the mess hall". As he is somebody who everybody saw earlier there is less suspicion. He gets to the fridge without hardly a question. Then, at the fridge he brakes the light bulb by "accident" and decides it would be best if he took responsibility and brought it to the maintenance bay. Again simple bluff checks till he gets there. Now he knocks out the guys in the maintenance bay or doesn't even go there and sneaks back out with the fridge.
In short, Obi needs bluff, perception, and stealth. You need bluff, perception, use computer, gather information, credits for any bribes while gathering information, and all the appropriate uniforms. Also, Obi can fight his way out and hide should anything go wrong, as well as quickly (1 round) shape shift into something else. It takes what, 10 minutes for you to change appearance?
I am not trying to bash on you or anything, it is just, you two made very similar characters. Obi's just is more well rounded. On the plus side, you have the high perception and bluff checks which make you the face of the group. Something my character can do but not quite as well as yours. As I said before, we will make due no matter the group. I just think either you or obi should make a slight adjustment in character so you are both useful in other aspects.
A suggestion for that is you could take on a little bit of a shooter role. Drop the excess linguist feat and add in some combat feats like quick draw and zero range so you can do what obi does in a tight spot, shock and kill. Or go all out hacker tree so you can get everything in our way out of the way while still blending in and appearing like you are doing your job. What I am saying is diversify a little ^^