Gurneywars wrote:
dalsiandon wrote:
Gurneywars wrote:
dalsiandon wrote:
NickName wrote:
darthbabylon wrote:
I think the game always lacked faction specific ce's for troopers, soldiers, scouts, operatives, ect. I always see people building with fringe, troop types. especially, sith, old rep, new rep, 90% of their troops,soldiers, scouts are worthless.
fringe support, I think should always come with a cost. it will make using certain factions more unique.
Jingoist Rallier
Fringe
Cost (low)
Stats (crap)
Affinity: Any non-Fringe faction.
Jingoist Reinforcements: If the squad contains no characters of a different faction, you may add reinforcements equivalent to 10% of the build total.
Jingoist Reserves: If the squad contains no characters of a different faction, you may add reserves equivalent to 10% of the build total on an init roll of 1.
Effectively a faction-pure bonus one you iron out the wording and cost.
This is a nice thought, but I can see part of the resoloution to the problem in adjusting some of hte troop-types in the factions DB is discussing, becasue the Empire and the Sep's are the only group where their basic fodder troops are common in the game. However the SIth have nice troops and have a couple of decent enough troop CE's, but they are not a troop faction, sorry, and the NR is harldy disimilliar than the Rebels, it's a Unqiue powered faction, it was the unique heros that won the war not the front line grunts.
Tell that to those poor troopers that died in the trenches of hoth oh you mean the game.
Those poor troopers on hoth, uh, I hate to brake it to you but they lost.
They lost the battle but they died to win the war. So many troopers, pilots and heros got away to continue to fight and eventually win the war.
Um...IDK about you...but I live in Colorado Springs CO and this is a military town, two bases the air force academy and Norad all in my back yard, and no family that loses a loved one will consider it a victory. If you die, you lose, and your family loses. Sure the cause may win the war with your sacrifice but that is hardly a comfort.
So the guys on hoth, they lost. Only those who survive truly win, after all they are also the ones who get to write the history for "a deadman tells no tells."
But this is straying off topic. Hence it will be my final post to this line of discussion.
In terms of V-sets I think having as many people on board is very important. I think establishing a tourny rule factor is important becasue it provides some legitamcy to it. With DCI leaving a lot of places that have groups may choose to go back to the rulebook format. Two activations every phase and every round and then the power swap returns or the Kota bomb, is that something that we want as a group?
These non-uniques need to be something that players want and will aid the game. I don't think the process can afford any dud characters in this format. However we are gamers and we are a finky bunch and the saying goes "You can't please everyone" I also think we need to be a bit mroe original, which I why I really like hte idea of the "Rookie" style, then characters like the OR Recruit can fall into that catagory, and the benefit of a rookie is it's cheaper but not as good as it's more experinced counter parts and we have lots of elites and veteran style non-uniques already. THink about for the Empire, stormtrooper rookie, 3 points, 10 hp, +0 attack, 14 defense(heck a 13 might be fine), 10 damage, think about it, thematicly it works, no need to use rodian brutes as a cheap imperial swap or open doors, have the rookie do it, and hten the 5 point storm can actually flex its muscles. And with the stats available it's attack score can only get so high and even with Vader IC they will still nto be as good as a regular stormtrooper and nowhere near an elite. And all the attack bonuses, well a +0 is a +0, that's what an uggie attacks with. Even with opportunist and standing still to gain a +3 thats still only a 7, and if another character combines fire it's still just an 11. However there could be more use than just attacking with someone like that. They could allow CE's like Baron Fels to see life as they support the attacker, all the rebel combine fire CE's could finally get some love with a 3 point Rebel trooper recruit.