Jester007 wrote:
@Jedi_Master
Yes, Obi's character is more well rounded where mine is more specialized. Just to clarify, I will mostly only need bluff (deception) and knowledge (social sciences). To create forged IDs and disguises, it uses the deception skill. The only time I will need to gather info is to find out how a particular ID looks.
Yes, Obi's character can change his appearnce on the fly, but not his clothing. So he may still have to find clothing that makes him fit into the area he is in. Which means he may have to subdue someone to obtain that, making it more likely someone will notice something has gone wrong.
Then when it comes to him bluffing, he only has a +2 to Deception where I have a +13. I may also get a circumstancial bonus on my deception check using my knowledge (social sciences) skill. Obi's character may know that someone is an officer or a VIP, but if he calls them by the incorrect title, it could blow his cover (if that situation where to occur).
I can also possibly intimidate someone, using my Persuasion skill, I run into as a way of dealing with them or manipulating them into doing something favorably to me and/or the group.
Both Obi and I are going to be very useful. The both of us could back each other up on the same mission. I can use my skills to create a false ID for him so he can get in as easy as I and then use his Stealth to sneak about.
Just to make sure of this, I'm not yelling at you or trying to prove you wrong, but just wanted to show another way of looking at this. Now we may not get a single chance for my character to use his skills. In which case I may talk to Treebeard about introducing a new character. But we'll cross that bridge if we come to it.
Sincerely,
Jester007
Yes, Obi's character is more well rounded where mine is more specialized. Just to clarify, I will mostly only need bluff (deception) and knowledge (social sciences). To create forged IDs and disguises, it uses the deception skill. The only time I will need to gather info is to find out how a particular ID looks.
Yes, Obi's character can change his appearnce on the fly, but not his clothing. So he may still have to find clothing that makes him fit into the area he is in. Which means he may have to subdue someone to obtain that, making it more likely someone will notice something has gone wrong.
Then when it comes to him bluffing, he only has a +2 to Deception where I have a +13. I may also get a circumstancial bonus on my deception check using my knowledge (social sciences) skill. Obi's character may know that someone is an officer or a VIP, but if he calls them by the incorrect title, it could blow his cover (if that situation where to occur).
I can also possibly intimidate someone, using my Persuasion skill, I run into as a way of dealing with them or manipulating them into doing something favorably to me and/or the group.
Both Obi and I are going to be very useful. The both of us could back each other up on the same mission. I can use my skills to create a false ID for him so he can get in as easy as I and then use his Stealth to sneak about.
Just to make sure of this, I'm not yelling at you or trying to prove you wrong, but just wanted to show another way of looking at this. Now we may not get a single chance for my character to use his skills. In which case I may talk to Treebeard about introducing a new character. But we'll cross that bridge if we come to it.
Sincerely,
Jester007
Here is my point I guess. The two of you have what, 5 classes to choose from that you can mix and match and build up to a few dozen prestige classes, each with hundreds of feats and dozens of talents to build off of. It just seems like yours is a little one dimensional. "I am a spy." Good...so what do you do when you aren't trying to retrieve something or blend into the crowd? Maybe it is just a back story thing, do you have one?
For example, my guy is a fledgling underworld boss trying to get a good contract with anybody who fights the empire, which is keeping his business down. He is wealthy and very book smart, so he knows where/how to look for leads. I built him around that idea. However, he was given several feats to help him survive combat and a few others to represent that background yet still benefit the group.
Elanor is a demo woman. She is built around crushing things with high explosives and does it well. She also has battlefield control in the sense of area attacks and bantha herder. She is also a mechanic, pilot, and little bit of a medic. Still, none of that detracts form the primary goal of blowing stang up.
Obi, while I do not like the character concept of a stealthy melee character, does it in a way that can be understood. Like your guy, he doesn't want to attract attention with a weapon, so he went the melee rout should things go poorly. That lets him be useful in regular combat too, or as a scout who can look ahead and make sure it is safe for the rest of us to go on ahead. On top of that, he is a good backup mechanic and pilot.
Your guy has a lot of deception, almost to much, and persuasion. He can do the back up medic or the pilot. He can be a good computer tech too. Thing is, you have quite a bit of waste. What could you need two levels in linguist for? Why do you need skill focus in deception for when you have master of disguise? What I am suggesting is drop a linguist for a decent shooter feat like Precise shot or quick draw and maybe drop the skill training in deception for a medic related feat like medical team or a group benefit like deceptive drop or demoralizing strike. You can be a great spy still but with added usefulness at almost no cost.
Like I said, it is just a suggestion. Feel free to ignore it. Just trying to make it so you do not have to worry about having to make another character should treebird not offer enough opportunity for you.
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